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Fireface 800, TC Triple C stereo

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Te koop enkel om een andere koop te financieren, mocht die koop niet lukken gaan deze dingen ook uit de verkoop.

Als nieuw in doos:

- Fireface 800, 950,-

Als nieuw zonder doos maar inc. Compucap chic grijzen stofjas

- Mackie Control Universal Pro, 950,- (USB-versie dus)


Als hetgeen ik wil kopen weg is gaat dit aanbod dus ook over, en de koop is enkel op lokatie af te ronden(Amsterdam Oost).
 
MCU Pro zo goed als verkocht, Fireface 800 is er nog. 899,- afhaalprijs.
 
En de MCU Pro is opgehaald door de mannen uit Tilburg!

Blijft dus over: Fireface 800, 899,- als nieuw in doos.
Komt bij: TC Electronic Triple C stereo multiband-compressor, 300,-
 
The Fireface 800 is the world's most powerful FireWire audio interface ever. Up to 56 channels record/playback, up to 192 kHz sample rate, and true FireWire 800 sum up to an unsurpassed high-end, high performance and high speed FireWire audio interface. Since the Fireface first shipped in July 2004, the unit became the reference for FireWire audio - and still is today!
The Fireface 800 combines the latest and also proven technologies of previous RME products with the fastest FireWire technology. Analog technology of the ADI-8 converters, microphone technology of the OctaMic, TotalMix technology of the Hammerfall DSP series, years of experience in programming of efficient and reliable drivers, up to complete support from DIGICheck - only the best of the best, and even a bit more. The Fireface 800 offers the best worked out instrument input that could ever be found in an audio interface, a high power headphone output and signal-to-noise ratios of 119 dBA.
RMEs Fireface 800 is seen as reference by users and editors, when talking about FireWire audio and mobile recording.
It includes lots of features and capabilities not available from other manufacturers.

RME FireWire Audio RME's FireWire audio offers many pro-audio features not available from other manufacturer's units: Complete real-time sample rate lock Complete real-time sample rate control, even during playback/record Complete start/stop control. No changed offset after reboot. Extreme varispeed / external sync support, in all modes (even DS / QS) Despite having a superior sync behavior (see above), the Fireface's SteadyClock provides a heavy jitter suppression even in varipitch applications. Reduced protocol overhead, by not sending CIP (Common Isochronous Packet format) headers (AVC, mLan) Working FireWire 800 solution Working FireWire 800 fix for Windows XP SP2 Latency change on the fly, while ASIO is running Latency change on the fly, while GSIF is running Hardware-based data packet check and drop out correction Complete real-time monitoring solution, covering all inputs and all playback channels, equaling an 28+28 channels inline console having 28 Aux sends per channel. Lots of advanced and unique features. Plus hardware based Peak/RMS metering. Windows and Mac OS X drivers are completely identical in terms of features and functionality Super low jitter MIDI I/O similar to PCI-based performance (1 ms)

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Inputs and Outputs

Analog I/Os: Eight balanced line inputs and outputs with software controlled switching of the reference levels (-10 dBV, +4 dBu, HiGain), of course realized discretely in the analog domain, guarantee highest dynamic range and highest fidelity. Apart from the levels of the microphone pre-amps and the headphone outputs, all device settings are software controlled. Equipped with the latest A/D and D/A converter chips, all I/Os operate up to 192 kHz and reach 119 dBA dynamic range on playback - even the headphone output (playback channels 9/10), whose high power technology delivers high volume even with low-impedance headphones.
On the front side, the Fireface 800 has 4 discrete balanced microphone inputs with class-A stage, separate activation of 48 V phantom power and separate XLR/TRS inputs, where the latter can also be used as additional Line inputs. Two of the four mic inputs are permanently available as channels 9 and 10, the other two can be used together with or alternatively to the inputs 7/8 on the back.
The FireFace 800's Hi-Z instrument input offers a soft-limiter, which has been tuned especially for musical instruments. Due to a soft transition and deliberate creation of harmonics, the input signal is compressed steplessly according to taste, or the limiter can be used for distortion with tube sound. Activate the Drive circuit too for broad guitar distortion. The Speaker Emulation filter, which can also be switched on separately, takes low- and high-frequency disturbances away and guarantees an optimal basic sound even when recording directly into the computer, or when monitoring through a mixing console.
Digital I/Os: Two ADAT optical I/Os allow for a connection and insertion of effects devices, mixing consoles or external converters. Of course, these 16 channels are available simultaneously with the analog channels. Using two additional ADI-8 DS, there are 26 analog inputs and outputs, which remain still 18 at 96 kHz. The coaxial SPDIF I/O works up to 192 kHz, so that there are still 10 analog in- and outputs at the highest sample rate, plus two digital ones.
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Features

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All inputs and outputs can be used at the same time*!. E. g., the instrument input can be used either instead of the line input on the back, or together with it. Even the TRS jack and the XLR socket of the microphone inputs can be used simultaneously. This way, up to 35 signal sources can be connected to the Fireface 800 and recorded onto 28 separate tracks!
Thanks to the DSP-based TotalMix mixer, known from the Hammerfall DSP series, all inputs and outputs can be freely mixed, distributed and routed. Up to 14 completely independent stereo submixes are possible. Each of the mixer's output channels, that is every single submix channel, can be recorded directly, without the need of external cable loops. And there's more: TotalMix can be MIDI remote controlled with any Mackie Control compatible controller.
All settings including TotalMix are recalled during boot via flash memory. After making all desired settings, the device works stand-alone even without computer as a submixer, A/D and D/A-converter, headphone mixer, format converter, instrument or microphone pre-amplifier, monitoring mixer and much more.
The Fireface 800 is equipped with SteadyClock(TM), RME's unique sync and clock technology. With this, the device becomes a sync reference for the whole studio. SteadyClock refreshes clock signals, removes jitter, and takes permanent care of optimal conversion quality, thus guarantees a sensational sound quality, completely independent from the reference clock's quality.
SteadyClock allows the Fireface 800 to control the sample rate freely on its own. The Settings dialog includes a direct choice of the video and audio world's most often used sample rates. Additionally, two faders can be used to set the sample rate freely and in real-time, within the range of +/- 4% and +/- 0.4%.
Via an insert slot on the back, a Time Code Option (TCO) for synchronizing to LTC and video can be added. Thanks to SteadyClock, the Fireface 800 does not only extract absolute positions, but also a very clean low-jitter word clock.
The Fireface 800 has a second port for hub functionality, bi-lingual mode for full FireWire 400 compatibility, and an additional FireWire 400 port. Several Fireface 800 can be used in parallel and at the same time on one FireWire port.
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Technical Specifications

Input AD: 8 x 1/4" TRS, 4 x XLR Mic, 4 x 1/4" TRS Line, all servo-balanced. 1 x 1/4" TS unbalanced
Output DA: 8 x 1/4" TRS, servo-balanced, DC-coupled signal path. 1 x 1/4" TRS unbalanced
Input Digital: 2 x ADAT optical or SPDIF optical, SPDIF coaxial (AES/EBU compatible)
Output Digital: 2 x ADAT optical or SPDIF optical, SPDIF coaxial (AES/EBU compatible)
MIDI: 1 x MIDI I/O via 5-pin DIN jacks, for 16 channels low jitter hi-speed MIDI
Dynamic range AD: 109 dB RMS unweighted, 112 dBA
THD AD: < -110 dB (< 0.00032 %)
THD+N AD: < -104 dB (< 0.00063 %)
Crosstalk AD: > 110 dB
Dynamic range DA: 116 dB RMS unweighted, 119 dBA (unmuted)
THD DA: < -103 dB (< 0.0007 %)
THD+N DA: < -100 dB (< 0.001 %)
Crosstalk DA: > 110 dB
Input/Output level for 0 dBFS @ Hi Gain: +19 dBu
Input/Output level for 0 dBFS @ +4 dBu: +13 dBu
Input/Output level for 0 dBFS @ -10 dBV: +2 dBV
Sample rate internally: 32, 44.1, 48, 64, 88.2 kHz, 96 kHz, 128, 176.4, 192 kHz
Sample rate externally: 28 kHz - 200 kHz
Frequency response AD/DA: -0.1 dB: 5 Hz - 21.5 kHz (sf 48 kHz)
Frequency response AD/DA: -0.5 dB: < 5 Hz - 43.5 kHz (sf 96 kHz)
Frequency response AD/DA: -1 dB: < 5 Hz - 70 kHz (sf 192 kHz)

Driver support

Windows 2000 SP4, Windows XP, Vista, Vista 64: Full ASIO multi-client operation of WDM, MME (not XP64), GSIF 2.0 and ASIO 2.0. WDM (DirectSound) with stereo and multi-Channel support. Full hot-plugging. Up to 3 units operational. Mac OS X (10.3 or higher) PPC and Intel: Core Audio, Core MIDI. Full hot-plugging. Up to three units operational.

* In Quad Speed mode (176.4 and 192 kHz), both ADAT I/Os are deactivated
** Firewire is a registered trademark of Apple Inc.

Optional Add-Ons

Time Code Option Timecode Option Module adding further sync options.

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Oh qua inruil is evt een degelijke master-compressor bespreekbaar. Maar liever gewoon de 899 euri's, geen geld voor "the world's most powerful FireWire audio interface ever."
 
Mods, kan de titel aangepast worden naar TK Fireface 800, TC Triple C stereo
 
Even ter illustratie, de bijgevoegde firewire-kabel van RME zit nog in het plastic, de rackoortjes hebben zelfs geen krassen, hij is echt nieuwer dan nieuw. Reden van verkoop is de overstap op een Metric Halo, en zeker niet ontevredenheid met de Fireface. Een duits-nuchtere kwaliteitskaart met een prachtig geluid en een kerstboom aan io-opties.

Qua ruil enkel interesse in een goede mastercompressor, bv een Drawmer 1968me of een Tfpro P38.

899,-
 
TC Triple C zou eventueel geruild kunnen worden voor een Ensoniq DP-pro, Sony R7, Korg Am8000r of Kurzweil Rumour.
 
Some of the most coveted compressor/limiters are simple in circuit design, offer few controls and are intuitive to use. The TC Electronic Triple C compressor is not one of those devices. The Triple C, thanks to its multilevel interface, offers nearly unprecedented control over its operational parameters.
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Product Points[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Applications: Studio, project studio, postproduction, broadcast

Key Features: Multiband and full-band compressor; single channel or stereo versions available; 1/4" balanced analog I/O, side chain input, S/PDIF digital I/O on RCA connectors, MIDI in/out/thru.

Price: $699 (single channel) $999 (stereo model)

Contact: TC Electronic at 800-288-5838 805-373-1828; Web Site
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Features

The Triple C is available in a single-channel version ($699) - reviewed here - and a stereo ($999) version. The device has two major modes of operation: full band and multiband (three-band) compression. Dependant upon which mode the unit is in, the various knobs and buttons can have multiple or, in some cases, no functionality.

The Triple C is capable of storing 100 user presets in addition to the 50 presets that are loaded into ROM. Users wanting to take advantage of the Triple C's digital I/O will be happy to know that the Triple C is a 24-bit capable device, although the highest sampling rate available is 48 kHz.

A look-ahead feature is available to provide "predictive" processing control. Use of this feature introduces an additional delay of 3 microseconds in addition to the 1.5 microsecond delay extant when utilizing the unit via analog connection. Processing delay is only 0.1 microseconds when used via the S/PDIF digital I/Os.

One of the coolest features of the Triple C is its envelope mode, which brings synthesizer-type envelope control to any source input to the Triple C. A side chain input is available for external control of the compressor's operations; it may also be used to link two single-channel Triple Cs together to form a stereo pair.

Starting with the left side, the front panel controls are arranged in sections detailed below.

Input Section: pushbutton power switch; rotary input knob; a large multicolored LCD display


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. Dynamics Section: multiband switch; rotary threshold knob; Peak/RMS meter switch; rotary ratio knob; softlimit switch; rotary attack knob; look-ahead delay switch; and rotary release knob. Spectral Section: envelope switch; rotary low-band knob; rotary high-band knob. Output Section: makeup gain and bypass switch. The rotary menu control system consists of a menu switch and a dual concentric rotary encoder with a push function on the inner knob.

The back panel provides balanced analog 1/4-inch inputs and outputs, a side chain (or stereo link) input, direct output (utilized for stereo link), S/PDIF digital I/O on RCA connectors, MIDI in/out/thru and a unit bypass jack on a 1/4-inch connector. AC is inputted to the unit via a detachable IEC power cable.

In use

I tried the Triple C out on a variety of sources, both analog and digital. I achieved the best results with digital sources.

In my recording facility, my primary source is a Sony/MCI 2-inch 24 track. Since I usually run BASF 900 Maxima tape, I have the machine aligned to +6 dB, which admittedly is pretty hot. I often like to compress right off of the tape, rather than utilize a channel insert. The Triple C did not like the hot output right off the deck; I achieved better results using the unit on a channel insert where I could control the levels more effectively.

After familiarizing myself with the Triple C's layered menus and controls, I was able to achieve good results using a wide range of sources and settings. I did note that the control labeling was very difficult to read in low light environments.

Although 1.5 microseconds is not a large amount of processing delay, one must be careful as unwanted phasing can occur with a multi-microphone set up. This was particularly evident when I tried the Triple C on a single drum (kick or snare, for instance) of a carefully miked drum kit.

I like the fact that the Triple C also includes digital I/O. This allows the unit to easily be used in tandem with a variety of other digital devices, including reverb units or as an insert in an audio computer set up. I achieved some unique and interesting results by combining the unit with reverb/delay devices. The envelope-shaping feature is particularly useful for obtaining new textures and effects; great for people into experimental or ambient music.

I found the factory presets to be good starting points for their intended applications. A little tweaking was all it took to zero in on what was required. Ironically, one of my very favorite presets was called "broken compressor," which simulated a wildly malfunctioning compressor-a very interesting sound.

Summary

If you are looking for a compressor capable of some fairly radical and unique processing, the Triple C might be for you. Adding to the unit's appeal are digital I/O, comprehensive MIDI implementation and in-depth control over many parameters.
 
FF800 verkocht, ik maak even een nieuw topic aan voor het overzicht.
 
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