Timbaland steelt beats

Jeesuz .. ik dacht altijd dat het wel een relaxte gast was ..
Zegt hij nou indirect dat Tempest het van een videogame heeft gejat ?
Die interviewer moet helemaal een nekschot krijgen ..
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTvY3wZrHrQ

Timbaland interviewed on "Elliot in the Morning", 2007-02-02
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transcribed by Matt Westcott - comments and corrections to gasman@raww.org


Presenter: Timbaland is with us this morning - the CD "Shock Value", that's up
next for you. Interesting mix of people on it.
Timbaland: Yes. Lot of shocking news.
P: Let me ask you this. How hard is it- well, I mean, it's easy for you to, like
you said, create a beat. Is it, um- we were talking about it before you got
here. Is- If somebody is close to the same level as you are, is it
conceivable that two people could sit down and create something that's
pretty similar?
T: [long pause] You could have sampled something to similar, but you can't- In
our opin- Music today, you [look at] some old song, and it's like "hey,
that's how [it went], this song out today".
P: Right.
T: And what if they got it from that. And somebody says, "I've never heard that
song a day in my life." Music isn't nothing but sounds and notes that
repeats itself.
P: Do you feel like you get ripped off a lot?
T: Yeah. All the time, but I'm used to it now. But now I'm like "Hey, you love
me don't you." That's what I tell people. "You love me, I'm [all your
mine]".
P: Have you ever ripped anybody else off?
T: Er - I haven't *ripped* nobody else off. But have I sampled? Hell, yeah.
P: Right.
T: I didn't rip- go say "Hey I'm gonna steal your beat". I don't have to, I'm
too good. [laughs]
P: Now what is the- so what's with the- okay, I love it! - What's with the case
with these- with the Finnish guys, who say-
T: Finn- er...
P: From Finland, who say you stole their stuff?
T: I put it this way. 'Cause, that mess is so ridiculous, I can't really talk
about it because I'm in legal- legal discussions and whatever, but I'm gonna
tell you, if people- That's what I don't believe. Look at my face- I don't
know who they faces are.
P: Right.
T: The hell wrong with them? [laughs] That's all I can tell you.
P: Right.
T: It's from a video game, idiot! [laughs]
P: [laughs]
T: Freaking jerk.
P: So that's, so that's all in, tied up in court right now?
T: Yeah, 'cause it's like, my whole thing is, yeah, because don't say I stole
some- like, you act- like you just say- A sample, and stole, are two
different things.
P: Right. Give me the quick definition that splits those.
T: S- Stole is like I walked in your house, watch you make that beat, took your
pro tools and went to my place and gave it to Nells and said "Hey, I got
this great song."
P: Right.
T: Is he crazy? I live in America. I don't even stay in Finla- I ain't gonna get
into it. Then sample is like, you heard it somewhere, and you just sample it.
P: Right.
T: But you didn't know, maybe you didn't know who it was by because it don't
have the credits listed.
P: Right.
T: So you just use it. Hey, I don't know, I like it, but I'm gonna use it.
Maybe somebody, you know, might well put a sample claim in, or, I don't
know. You know what I'm saying, but-
P: Right.
T: I like it, I don't have no researchin'- time is coming up when I got to turn
a record in.
P: Right.
T: So, that's what sampling is. That's not stealing, 'cause everybody sample
from everybody every day.
P: Right.
T: And that's what a sample is, like, it maybe [even needs a] credit, cause,
hey, I sampled it, I got it from a game. I don't know.
P: Right.
T: And you have a listen. And it say, C-64, Commodore 64. I don't know. You know
what I'm saying? So, I like it. I found it. I got sounds upon sounds upon
sound. I don't know what's public domain and what's not. Some stuff don't
say.
P: Right.
T: Some stuff say it, it says it.
P: So the stuff that's public, you just - "F- it, I'm gonna use it"?
T: Yeah, you can use it. It's like, I think Swizzy got sued one time for using
the Casio thing, in the Casio equipment that you buy. But who- well I think
they settled, because it's like "Yo, I brought 'em keyboard. I brought it.
They made it for me to use..."
P: Right.
T: "It was a demo in there that I like, and I flip it a certain way - how you
gonna sue me? It's a demo. I brought - the demo."
P: Right.
T: "Don't - you can't sue me for buying what I b- I purchased this." You just
say "Hey, by the way, don't sample"- it's like, "Well why am I gonna buy the
keyboard?" You know?
P: In the world you live in, in terms of being a producer, does that kind of
stuff, all the behind-the-scenes legal stuff, does that go on a lot?
T: It go on a lot 'cause everybody want to come out of the woodwork, say like
"you done something. You stole this." Or, You- whatever. Whatever. Whatever.
Whatever. Come on man, I'm good.
P: [laughs]
 
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T: S- Stole is like I walked in your house, watch you make that beat, took your
pro tools and went to my place and gave it to Nells and said "Hey, I got
this great song."
Q.E.D. - muziek downloaden is dus geen stelen, want je jat niks uit iemand z'n huis weg. Bedankt voor het duidelijk maken, Timbaland! :D
 
wat een eikel zeg....

omdat hij in america woont en goed is mag hij ineens van alles.

Ik ben wel benieuwd hoe dit afloopt. Krijgt die gast uiteindelijk zijn geld of niet. en of die gelijk krijgt of niet. Vaak word er dan een bedrag geschoven en heeft niemand nergens meer over.
 
Sampelen is dus niet stelen.
Ok mag ik dan een hele track 'sampelen' en remixen ?
Arrogant die gast zeg ! :r
 
Hahaha! Wat een grapjassen hier zeg...

Dus het is ok om te samplen, want iedereen doet het toch? Tis toch al zo vaak gedaan... :stupid
Dus ik kan morgen jouw velgen onder je auto komen uithalen, want 'HEY! Iedereen steelt toch velgen tegenwoordig? So it's ok...' Lul toch niet dom, man!
Sample maar eens wat van onze vriend Timbaland en release het en verdien er geld mee. Moet je eens kijken hoe snel die gasten in donkere pakken aan jouw deur staan.

Timbaland is een grapjas. En een leugenaar (van een video game! yeah right, eerst was het zogenaamd een preset van de Sidstation)... En een dief! Ik heb enorm respect voor GRG (de maker van de C64 versie van Acidjazzed fever, de versie die gesampled werdt door Timbaland), omdat GRG gewoon als sid-composer tot de beste hoort. Ik meen dat GRG zelfs vaker op de 'X'-parties is geweest (georganiseerd door Xenon, Dutch #1;), maar heb helaas nooit echt serieus met hem gesproken (of ik was te bezopen om het me te herinerren:). Neemt niet weg dat ik zijn werk op de C64 enorm waardeer. Vandaar dat ik dit misschien iets serieuzer opvat dan de gemiddelde synthforum.nl bezoeker...

Het lijkt me trouwens beter als mensen die geen verstand hebben van 'the scene' AUB hier ook niet met voorbeelden ala 'Fairlight' komen. Want dat gaat over iets compleet anders dan het issue dat hier aan de orde is...

Timbaland moet neer-geknuppeld worden, en gewoon de royalities en credits geven aan Janne en Glenn, waar ze ook recht op hebben. :smeris:
 
Hier nog een andere, betere youtube comparison video van een paar weken geleden.

Youtube - Timbaland uncleared sample

Better comparison of the original Acidjazzed Evening by Tempest (2000), GRG's C-64 version (2002), Timbaland's ringtone (2005) & Nelly Furtado's song "Do It" (2006).

Deze laat op een duidelijke manier zien (horen) wat er nu allemaal gebruikt is en waar.

Goed geproduceerde video trouwens, check it out.
 
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Creatieve actie van iemand op t net ;)

Werd gepost in deze uitgebreide thread over het onderwerp.
 
Weet iemand hoe (of) dit afgelopen is?
 
wat een eikel zeg....

omdat hij in america woont en goed is mag hij ineens van alles.

Ik ben wel benieuwd hoe dit afloopt. Krijgt die gast uiteindelijk zijn geld of niet. en of die gelijk krijgt of niet. Vaak word er dan een bedrag geschoven en heeft niemand nergens meer over.
Is omdat amerikaans rechtssysteem dit toelaat
 
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